OPVs

[userusername]

I'm new to clinical trials and I have stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I ignorantly signed up for a study that is months long with OPVs and I really want to do other studies.
Should I just withdrawal from this study?
Should I just ue the OPVs with this study and also participate in other studies?

What should I do?

I am listening and to any and all advice.

[FloridaGirl]

Oct 6, 2016 21:35:37 GMT -5 userusername said:

I'm new to clinical trials and I have stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I ignorantly signed up for a study that is months long with OPVs and I really want to do other studies.
Should I just withdrawal from this study?
Should I just ue the OPVs with this study and also participate in other studies?

What should I do?

I am listening and to any and all advice.

[FloridaGirl]

Oct 6, 2016 21:35:37 GMT -5 userusername said:

I'm new to clinical trials and I have stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I ignorantly signed up for a study that is months long with OPVs and I really want to do other studies.
Should I just withdrawal from this study?
Should I just ue the OPVs with this study and also participate in other studies?

What should I do?

I am listening and to any and all advice.

[FloridaGirl]

Well i wanted to be able to see the post to answer but here it goes

Have u already done the inpatient part of the study?

Is it a facility that you would like to go back to in the future, or that is close to u and u need to go back in the future?

Do they have the VCT or more important does the place u want to do studies at inbetween have VCT?

Many people do studies in between, especially if the out pt visits are spread out like over 6 mos.

If u started the study and dont finish they might hold it against u

I struggle with this as well, mainly because i bruise easy so dont want to show up at a study with bruises.
So hopefully someone else will also comment, maybe someone who does this a lot.
I am always trying to keep busy making money when i can since u never know if u will have a dry spell.
Good luck.

[ac]

Withdrawing from the study could ruin your chances of doing future studies with that clinic. I would try to find ways to make money when you are between OPVs and ue with the study. You could walk dogs, mow lawns, shovel snow, ect. Then keep in mind for the future that you don't just look at the dollar amount, look at the dollar amount per week or per month.

[puntkicker]

Oct 6, 2016 21:35:37 GMT -5 userusername said:

I'm new to clinical trials and I have stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I ignorantly signed up for a study that is months long with OPVs and I really want to do other studies.
Should I just withdrawal from this study?
Should I just ue the OPVs with this study and also participate in other studies?

What should I do?

I am listening and to any and all advice.

FG hit a number of important points. The first thing I'd ask is if you'd ever like to do another study at this place? Obviously they'll want nothing to do with you after you screw them over.

I won't get into morals, because we don't know you're situation. You could be dying of lung cancer like on Breaking Bad, we don't know. I'm just warning you that some replies in the past have been harsh. You should see one from a guy who took an antiacid. Lol

One thing that might make folks less judgmental, and even you feel better, is how long ago you finished dosing. If long enough ago, you will only be potentially compromising one study and not two. Maybe none.

From your other threads you obviously know about VCT, so I won't get into that. Either way, let us know how it goes. I highly doubt you're alone in your situation, and you can probably help others. Was this your first study? Where at?

[userusername]

Oct 7, 2016 17:30:45 GMT -5 FloridaGirl said:

Well i wanted to be able to see the post to answer but here it goes

Have u already done the inpatient part of the study?

Is it a facility that you would like to go back to in the future, or that is close to u and u need to go back in the future?

Do they have the VCT or more important does the place u want to do studies at inbetween have VCT?

Many people do studies in between, especially if the out pt visits are spread out like over 6 mos.

If u started the study and dont finish they might hold it against u

I struggle with this as well, mainly because i bruise easy so dont want to show up at a study with bruises.
So hopefully someone else will also comment, maybe someone who does this a lot.
I am always trying to keep busy making money when i can since u never know if u will have a dry spell.
Good luck.

Thank you for you response!

I have already completed the inpatient part of the study.

I do like the facility A LOT. I would really like to go back there in the future.

They do NOT have VCT. Some of places that I'm looking at do have VCT.

I was thinking about that. They say they won't hold it against you if you withdraw but...why would they want someone who withdrew previously?
So, I'm worried to withdraw.

I also dosed 30 days ago and the OPVs are lengthy. LENGTHY.
That's why I wanted to know if I could do other studies in between.

[userusername]

Oct 7, 2016 18:42:41 GMT -5 ac said:

Withdrawing from the study could ruin your chances of doing future studies with that clinic. I would try to find ways to make money when you are between OPVs and ue with the study. You could walk dogs, mow lawns, shovel snow, ect. Then keep in mind for the future that you don't just look at the dollar amount, look at the dollar amount per week or per month.

Thank you for your positivity and suggestions.
I will be cleaning houses as another way to make money and look for a VERY flexible job too.

Thank you for your comment. I didn't really get involved in studies until recently and I have now learned my lesson. >.<

I won't be able to shovel snow in the south though.

[userusername]

Oct 7, 2016 18:42:58 GMT -5 puntkicker said:

Oct 6, 2016 21:35:37 GMT -5 userusername said:

FG hit a number of important points. The first I'd ask is if you'd ever like to do another study at this place? Obviously they'll want nothing to do with you after you screw them over.

I won't get into morals, because we don't know you're situation. You could be dying of lung cancer like on Breaking Bad, we don't know. I'm just warning you that some replies in the past have been harsh. You should see one from a guy who took an antiacid. Lol

One thing that might make folks less judgmental, and even you feel better, is how long ago you finished dosing. If long enough ago, you will only be potentially compromising one study and not two. Maybe none.

From your other threads you obviously know about VCT, so I won't get into that. Either way, let us know how it goes. I highly doubt you're alone in your situation, and you can probably help others. Was this your first study? Where at?

Honestly, 

             I'm not worried about the judgement and people don't know my situation- I'm struggling and I do not have the ability to just go get a job for reasons I will not divulge.

It has been 30 days since dosing. This was my first study and I don't want to say where yet...just in case...

[puntkicker]

Oct 8, 2016 20:43:08 GMT -5 userusername said:

Oct 7, 2016 18:42:58 GMT -5 puntkicker said:

FG hit a number of important points. The first I'd ask is if you'd ever like to do another study at this place? Obviously they'll want nothing to do with you after you screw them over.

I won't get into morals, because we don't know you're situation. You could be dying of lung cancer like on Breaking Bad, we don't know. I'm just warning you that some replies in the past have been harsh. You should see one from a guy who took an antiacid. Lol

One thing that might make folks less judgmental, and even you feel better, is how long ago you finished dosing. If long enough ago, you will only be potentially compromising one study and not two. Maybe none.

From your other threads you obviously know about VCT, so I won't get into that. Either way, let us know how it goes. I highly doubt you're alone in your situation, and you can probably help others. Was this your first study? Where at?

Honestly, 

             I'm not worried about the judgement and people don't know my situation- I'm struggling and I do not have the ability to just go get a job for reasons I will not divulge.

It has been 30 days since dosing. This was my first study and I don't want to say where yet...just in case...

Ha, you are wise not to worry about judgement. This board looks like it used to be worse in those regards, but the people seem quite nice since I joined a couple months back.

You're right that they tell you that you can leave at any time for any reason, but if you were them and wanted to keep every possible spot filled for profit margin, and you had a large stream of people to choose from, would you pick someone who had already quit after you invested a lot in them? I'm not mocking you, I'm just trying to be helpful and give you their perspective to help you make a decision.

While I do not personally mess around with the wash out window, I did compile that list and will add the new info you've gleaned from replies(good work on that, by the way), because I try to follow the Golden Rule and like helping others have the resources that can help them, even if I don't choose their particular od of operation. So... If the place you were with doesn't have VCT, you should be golden with the next place, provided they don't have some local agreement as I've seen mentioned between some places in the same state. Youll have to decide for yourself if you'd think the new drug might effect the readings on the first study, being we dont have the specifics.

I wish you the best, and hope more people will weigh in to help. PK

[vark]

What's it pay if you finish? What would you get paid if you quit now?
[edit: ballpark numbers, dont tell us the exact number because that could help identify you.]

Did they ever explain what it paid per week, or what the annualized pay rate was? (of course they didn't.) Is it a living wage?
(probably not?) Personally I have a general rule that I won't take a study that pays less than 2K, and then at least 1K for every extra month it ues.

Do what's best for you. Don't worry about what the clinic wants, except as far as it affects what's best for you. They aren't supposed to hold it against you for bailing for any reason, but in practice they might. If you bail, you will still get some pay, but it might be less than you think, so find out.

One option you have would be to screen somewhere, and reach a decision about what to do once you get offered a spot somewhere else. Because what if you bail from your study but don't get in anywhere else? of course, even when they say you are in, you aren't really in till you dose.
This option probably involves being less than totally honest with the place you would be screening, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just outline options. I've been doing this enough years I've become a bit cynical. Caveats: don't screen somewhere owned by the same megacorp, or for the same sponsor as the study you are now in.

I personally have not ever dropped out of a study once I dosed. My most recent study, for a local hospital involved uncomfortable electric shocks that were barely worth the pittance i was getting, but i decided to stick it out. But I have turned down a lot of studies that didn't pay enough for the time involved, and I can see how in your first study you could fall for soing like that.
I think you are wise not to name names, but in the past month I've turned down screening offers in florida, tennesee, and nebraska, because it wasn't enough pay for the number of outpatients.

If you can get in that $12K spaulding study, cut and run. But that one might be full by now, or have drawbacks I don't know about.

Anyhow you are asking the right kind of questions. Figure out how to pick short studies that pay well, or longer studies that pay really well, so you can make enough to live on.

[userusername]

Oct 8, 2016 21:27:47 GMT -5 puntkicker said:

Oct 8, 2016 20:43:08 GMT -5 userusername said:

Honestly, 

             I'm not worried about the judgement and people don't know my situation- I'm struggling and I do not have the ability to just go get a job for reasons I will not divulge.

It has been 30 days since dosing. This was my first study and I don't want to say where yet...just in case...

Ha, you are wise not to worry about judgement. This board looks like it used to be worse in those regards, but the people seem quite nice since I joined a couple months back.

You're right that they tell you that you can leave at any time for any reason, but if you were them and wanted to keep every possible spot filled for profit margin, and you had a large stream of people to choose from, would you pick someone who had already quit after you invested a lot in them? I'm not mocking you, I'm just trying to be helpful and give you their perspective to help you make a decision.

While I do not personally mess around with the wash out window, I did compile that list and will add the new info you've gleaned from replies(good work on that, by the way), because I try to follow the Golden Rule and like helping others have the resources that can help them, even if I don't choose their particular od of operation. So... If the place you were with doesn't have VCT, you should be golden with the next place, provided they don't have some local agreement as I've seen mentioned between some places in the same state. Youll have to decide for yourself if you'd think the new drug might effect the readings on the first study, being we dont have the specifics.

I wish you the best, and hope more people will weigh in to help. PK

Thank you for your input.
I just really didn't know what I was getting myself into I'm my first trial. To be honest, I just really needed money quickly and clinical trials pulled up in Google.
The dose that I received was an injection and they are monitoring the blood to monitor the effects.
What I got from asking around is that they don't really check much else from the blood work.
I think I could participate in a trial that was oral medication and have little to no worry about it showing up in my system two weeks after dosing. Now, I was told that injections can be longer lasting but they're referring to the antibodies. The trial I am currently enrolled is looking for antibodies that might develop from the medication(which is what they want).

[userusername]

Oct 9, 2016 0:46:26 GMT -5 vark said:

What's it pay if you finish? What would you get paid if you quit now?
[edit: ballpark numbers, dont tell us the exact number because that could help identify you.]

Did they ever explain what it paid per week, or what the annualized pay rate was? (of course they didn't.) Is it a living wage?
(probably not?) Personally I have a general rule that I won't take a study that pays less than 2K, and then at least 1K for every extra month it ues.

Do what's best for you. Don't worry about what the clinic wants, except as far as it affects what's best for you. They aren't supposed to hold it against you for bailing for any reason, but in practice they might. If you bail, you will still get some pay, but it might be less than you think, so find out.

One option you have would be to screen somewhere, and reach a decision about what to do once you get offered a spot somewhere else. Because what if you bail from your study but don't get in anywhere else? of course, even when they say you are in, you aren't really in till you dose.
This option probably involves being less than totally honest with the place you would be screening, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just outline options. I've been doing this enough years I've become a bit cynical. Caveats: don't screen somewhere owned by the same megacorp, or for the same sponsor as the study you are now in.

I personally have not ever dropped out of a study once I dosed. My most recent study, for a local hospital involved uncomfortable electric shocks that were barely worth the pittance i was getting, but i decided to stick it out. But I have turned down a lot of studies that didn't pay enough for the time involved, and I can see how in your first study you could fall for soing like that.
I think you are wise not to name names, but in the past month I've turned down screening offers in florida, tennesee, and nebraska, because it wasn't enough pay for the number of outpatients.

If you can get in that $12K spaulding study, cut and run. But that one might be full by now, or have drawbacks I don't know about.

Anyhow you are asking the right kind of questions. Figure out how to pick short studies that pay well, or longer studies that pay really well, so you can make enough to live on.

The total amount is near $6000 but it's months long so the pay is mediocre and I won't make this mistake again. I think that I'm just going to stick it out with this trial because I really want to do more trials at this location because of it's cleanliness and hospitality. I went to a screening somewhere else and was appalled at the filthiness and that honestly made me apprehensive to dose there.

[loredo]

Oct 9, 2016 22:17:43 GMT -5 userusername said:

Oct 9, 2016 0:46:26 GMT -5 vark said:

What's it pay if you finish? What would you get paid if you quit now?
[edit: ballpark numbers, dont tell us the exact number because that could help identify you.]

Did they ever explain what it paid per week, or what the annualized pay rate was? (of course they didn't.) Is it a living wage?
(probably not?) Personally I have a general rule that I won't take a study that pays less than 2K, and then at least 1K for every extra month it ues.

Do what's best for you. Don't worry about what the clinic wants, except as far as it affects what's best for you. They aren't supposed to hold it against you for bailing for any reason, but in practice they might. If you bail, you will still get some pay, but it might be less than you think, so find out.

One option you have would be to screen somewhere, and reach a decision about what to do once you get offered a spot somewhere else. Because what if you bail from your study but don't get in anywhere else? of course, even when they say you are in, you aren't really in till you dose.
This option probably involves being less than totally honest with the place you would be screening, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just outline options. I've been doing this enough years I've become a bit cynical. Caveats: don't screen somewhere owned by the same megacorp, or for the same sponsor as the study you are now in.

I personally have not ever dropped out of a study once I dosed. My most recent study, for a local hospital involved uncomfortable electric shocks that were barely worth the pittance i was getting, but i decided to stick it out. But I have turned down a lot of studies that didn't pay enough for the time involved, and I can see how in your first study you could fall for soing like that.
I think you are wise not to name names, but in the past month I've turned down screening offers in florida, tennesee, and nebraska, because it wasn't enough pay for the number of outpatients.

If you can get in that $12K spaulding study, cut and run. But that one might be full by now, or have drawbacks I don't know about.

Anyhow you are asking the right kind of questions. Figure out how to pick short studies that pay well, or longer studies that pay really well, so you can make enough to live on.

The total amount is near $6000 but it's months long so the pay is mediocre and I won't make this mistake again. I think that I'm just going to stick it out with this trial because I really want to do more trials at this location because of it's cleanliness and hospitality. I went to a screening somewhere else and was appalled at the filthiness and that honestly made me apprehensive to dose there.

Is that study still taking people? Where in the south? I live in Chattanooga, TN and I am looking for my first study. $6000 is A LOT!! Do you have any more information? Thanks!

[puntkicker]

It's amazing how 2 slightly newer than myself users can have completely different views on $6000. One calls it mediocre(before even finishing 1st study), one calls it a lot. I guess one could factor the total length of the study, and how many visits it requires. Did the OP ever say? We don't need exact dates, though I seriously doubt any clinic(let alone all of them) would invest the manpower to decode each post on here anyhow. It wouldn't seem efficient.