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Post by fl2014ta on Jun 15, 2014 18:18:10 GMT -5
Anyone ever do a study here at Hopkins in B'more? I am on a study here now. Let's just say I'd be interested in hearing people's feedback, or if anyone knows anyone who knows someone who did one here. I will admit my mistake and take my losses on this one. I just figured while I was waiting for a study to come up at Parexel I could take this one and ue screening out here until soing breaks. It is a non-invasive study so it doesn't put me at any disadvantage with washout periods, etc. So far I haven't even had a procedure day yet and this place is the most inept CRO process I've ever seen, even worse than Celerion. Had a few issues already with some of the staff on a unit I'm in at for inpatient washout a few days before I go to the actual procedure the rest of this week. It doesn't pay great but it's soing in between until soing better breaks for me. So just curious to exchange stories with anyone else who did a trial here.
As I am writing this I just sent a 1-page letter to the study coordinator about the shenanigans that go on here with the nursing staff. I feel like I'm in Romper Room with these people here. It's really a joke ...
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Post by vark on Jun 23, 2014 22:04:40 GMT -5
i heard about this place this morning from a guy while screening somewhere else. his experiences were good. could you get us the contact info so paul can add it, unless it's there and i missed it.
feel free to share your letter.
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Post by eastcoast on Mar 18, 2015 6:24:14 GMT -5
I'm supposed to go out there to screen today. I'm having reservations. They will not cover the cost of any adverse events or injury but I would be responsible for any treatment by John Hopkins...I could end up with a bill instead of a check if soing goes wrong.
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Post by mike on Mar 18, 2015 14:19:22 GMT -5
I have never heard of such a thing, a clinic is legally obligated to take care of anything that happens to you related to a study; they would even be responsible if you slipped in the shower and sprained your wrist. They would probably be responsible if you claimed that 2 days after the study the drug made you faint and you fell.
Of course, we are talking about "the law", and lawyers can shenaniganize their clients out of responsibility for anything (see Robert Durst), but a clinic/hospital would have a hard time not doing what you say they won't do. The cost of just treating you would very quickly be surpassed after they have to start talking to lawyers. Maybe they are bluffing, hoping people will give up and not press the matter.
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Post by eastcoast on Mar 18, 2015 19:33:32 GMT -5
Apparently they are in their right, just as we have the right to turn down the study. It just needs to be in clear writing in the consent form. It is generally recommended that research places cover those costs and it makes them more competitive with other facilities, but they are not obligated to do so. Still, if an injury or infection happened out of a mistake, malpractice, that sort of thing patients have the right to sue and they would likely be offered some sort of settlement.
Other than that, the screening experience was calm, thorough, informative, no feeling one is a part of a herd.
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Post by vandayoga on Jun 27, 2016 10:20:07 GMT -5
Wow, thanks everybody. I see my mom in Baltimore a lot and so want to know whattsup in this area. I'm doing my first screening visit at Parexel tomorrow and would love to make friends with some of you!~ I'd like to find out how to find out about the Hopkins studies.
Also, if I get my phone screening at another place and go do a study there, say in Austin, TX, how do they know it's been 30 days or not since my previous study? They just rely on the honesty system?
I realized today if a relatively healthy person like me says, "I have a little bit of excema that comes and goes" ... they then need me to go get a diagnosis and fax info to them. Hmmmmm. Lucky I actually am seeing my doctor soon!
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Post by vark on Jun 27, 2016 22:44:54 GMT -5
the most common way they know is a system called vct, which checks with the other clinics that are part of that system. there might be a couple other such checking services but that's the big one. if the studies have the same sponsor (rare but can happen) they would know that way. the fda has all the data and could easily check, but they don't. the way this business works is that the lab rats willing to lie their way into a study get more work, and the clinics that lie to the sponsors and the lab rats get more work, and so forth.
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Post by travelingrat on Jun 28, 2016 9:45:10 GMT -5
yep, that sums it up nicely.
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Post by pagez on Jul 7, 2016 19:16:20 GMT -5
Im doing the ESP Sleep study at JH and no complaints so far.
The staff is friendly and attentive
The tests are boring but the room is nice!
One blood draw so far, you sleep hooked up to wires.
3 nights and 2 days $500-600
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So I am trying to do more inpatient studies and am hoping to do even more next year.
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Post by FloridaGirl on Sept 3, 2016 17:57:57 GMT -5
the most common way they know is a system called vct, which checks with the other clinics that are part of that system. there might be a couple other such checking services but that's the big one. if the studies have the same sponsor (rare but can happen) they would know that way. the fda has all the data and could easily check, but they don't. the way this business works is that the lab rats willing to lie their way into a study get more work, and the clinics that lie to the sponsors and the lab rats get more work, and so forth. Someone I met recently at a study told me that they have you sign a separate consent form for the VCT so I guess you would then know they are checking. I really never thought about the verification but everyone seems to be talking about it and I don't want to try it And get caught, afraid I might start getting banned from some facilities. I also wish there was a VCT list. Sometimes I want to screen at more than one facility because u never know if u will get in and or u might be an alternate so in that instance the VCT is a hindrance. So I am just trying to keep informed with my friends that I have met along the way and hope that they can give me advice along the way. And I do the same thing, passing along information when I can. Was thinking it must be really embarrassing to have a facility say that they know u were recently in a study and u can't back pedal your way out of it. thanks for yr informative post.
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Post by antecubital on Sept 4, 2016 12:04:18 GMT -5
the most common way they know is a system called vct, which checks with the other clinics that are part of that system. there might be a couple other such checking services but that's the big one. if the studies have the same sponsor (rare but can happen) they would know that way. the fda has all the data and could easily check, but they don't. the way this business works is that the lab rats willing to lie their way into a study get more work, and the clinics that lie to the sponsors and the lab rats get more work, and so forth. Someone I met recently at a study told me that they have you sign a separate consent form for the VCT so I guess you would then know they are checking. I really never thought about the verification but everyone seems to be talking about it and I don't want to try it And get caught, afraid I might start getting banned from some facilities. I also wish there was a VCT list. Sometimes I want to screen at more than one facility because u never know if u will get in and or u might be an alternate so in that instance the VCT is a hindrance. So I am just trying to keep informed with my friends that I have met along the way and hope that they can give me advice along the way. And I do the same thing, passing along information when I can. Was thinking it must be really embarrassing to have a facility say that they know u were recently in a study and u can't back pedal your way out of it. thanks for yr informative post. I wonder if you will really get banned if VCT says you just did a study someplace else, or if the clinic you're screening at will just exclude from the study you're screening for. I have never heard of anyone getting banned because of VCT.
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Post by vark on Sept 5, 2016 16:39:22 GMT -5
there is at least a partial vct list in one of these threads somewhere.
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A little about me: I am just getting started in clinical trials . Became unemployed and was doing small outpatient studies until someone told me about Covance and it has ed up a new world of making money.
So I am trying to do more inpatient studies and am hoping to do even more next year.
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Post by FloridaGirl on Sept 5, 2016 19:22:33 GMT -5
Someone I met recently at a study told me that they have you sign a separate consent form for the VCT so I guess you would then know they are checking. I really never thought about the verification but everyone seems to be talking about it and I don't want to try it And get caught, afraid I might start getting banned from some facilities. I also wish there was a VCT list. Sometimes I want to screen at more than one facility because u never know if u will get in and or u might be an alternate so in that instance the VCT is a hindrance. So I am just trying to keep informed with my friends that I have met along the way and hope that they can give me advice along the way. And I do the same thing, passing along information when I can. Was thinking it must be really embarrassing to have a facility say that they know u were recently in a study and u can't back pedal your way out of it. thanks for yr informative post. I wonder if you will really get banned if VCT says you just did a study someplace else, or if the clinic you're screening at will just exclude from the study you're screening for. I have never heard of anyone getting banned because of VCT.
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FloridaGirl
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I am new to Phase 1 clinical trials so I am trying to learn as much as I can .
Posts: 160
Location: Florida
I mainly do: Healthy Studies
# of studies I have done: 3
A little about me: I am just getting started in clinical trials . Became unemployed and was doing small outpatient studies until someone told me about Covance and it has ed up a new world of making money.
So I am trying to do more inpatient studies and am hoping to do even more next year.
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Post by FloridaGirl on Sept 5, 2016 19:33:04 GMT -5
I don't know what happens. I would hope that they would not totally ban you but if you are caught in a lie I guess they might. I guess that is why I am apprehensive about doing studies back to back. I guess it would be nice to know from someone who has experienced it as to if you get banned . I do think that the key would be to do as many screening ahead of time so that your blood work would be good if you wanted to go from one study to another.
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FloridaGirl
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I am new to Phase 1 clinical trials so I am trying to learn as much as I can .
Posts: 160
Location: Florida
I mainly do: Healthy Studies
# of studies I have done: 3
A little about me: I am just getting started in clinical trials . Became unemployed and was doing small outpatient studies until someone told me about Covance and it has ed up a new world of making money.
So I am trying to do more inpatient studies and am hoping to do even more next year.
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Post by FloridaGirl on Sept 5, 2016 19:33:59 GMT -5
there is at least a partial vct list in one of these threads somewhere. Thanks I will try and find it.
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