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Post by lazyasat on Sept 8, 2014 6:21:38 GMT -5
They installed camera's in the cafeteria, to enforce their "eat everything" policy even thought technically that rule has been lifted (non pk days) but they never explain this truth to the subjects.
All the good studies don't get emailed or posted to their website, you have to call in and be in good standing with them for them to reveal the info...
If they don't know you or like you, don't expect them to call you back right away after you leave a voicemail. *since they never pick up. Average wait time is 2-3 days if you're a newbie, 1-2 days if you're a regular and same day if they like you. (if you're rumored to have had sex in the showers don't expect them to ever call you back.)
If you screen late you have less of a chance to get into a study here, whether they admit it or not. Screen early or risk being alternate fodder.
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Post by vark on Sept 22, 2014 19:12:33 GMT -5
This has been my experience too. Instead of waiting for them to call you back, keep calling until you get through. Schedule your screening early, or expect to be an alternate. I waited too long to schedule my last screening,and after waiting 2 weeks for results was told the study was full. Because I'm on their 'nice' list, I've been told about studies before they showed up online. As far as I know the eat everything policy is still in place.
Some other clinics are similar where it's still useful to call even when the website lists nothing. e.g. jasper and buffalo. edit: at buffalo don't call, email.
The way studies work at a lot of places is when a good study is coming up the grapevine will get active; people will call their friends and by the time the study get listed to the website it's already booked. If you can't beat them join them; get into a study somewhere and start building your own grapevine or plug into an existing one.
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Post by idoitforthepong on Nov 11, 2014 13:18:44 GMT -5
It's has been super slow here study-wise lately...unless your female or elderly. Same at spaulding...which means when new studies do come here it will be a mad rush.
I would emphasis that if you are a regular returning here (especially if you did a lot of their hep c studies) to specifically ask the phone screener to verify that you are approved to screen and dose for the study, based on last compound use. A lot of time they will not check and book you for a screening. And you may go through the whole screening process before they let you know you can't do this study. Great if you want $50 for screening and enjoy watching Kathy lee and Hoda while browsing through the Tribune, but not good for getting in the study.
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Post by hairyscarylarry on Nov 11, 2014 21:23:39 GMT -5
Yeah that pay rate is below the standard rate of 250 a night. Tis why I'm skipping it and heading to Covance.
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Post by ac on Nov 11, 2014 22:46:07 GMT -5
Yeah that pay rate is below the standard rate of 250 a night. Tis why I'm skipping it and heading to Covance. Same here. Why do $215/night at Spaulding or $200/night at if you can do $250/night at Covance? |
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Post by ac on Nov 12, 2014 17:11:37 GMT -5
Same here. Why do $215/night at Spaulding or $200/night at if you can do $250/night at Covance? I've never heard of paying only $200 per night. They're usually somewhere between $220 and $240. Occasionally a short study will pay much more. That $215/night rate at Spaulding is particularly outrageous because it's a month-long study that requires you to be in-house over Thanksgiving. Not surprised they're having trouble filling it. I've done 3 studies at and they all payed $200/day if you include check-out as a day. The only ones i've seen pay higher are the short ones and the ones with multiple periods but even then it's usually around $220/day. |
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Post by vark on Nov 13, 2014 21:14:49 GMT -5
It's has been super slow here study-wise lately...unless your female or elderly. Same at spaulding...which means when new studies do come here it will be a mad rush. I would emphasis that if you are a regular returning here (especially if you did a lot of their hep c studies) to specifically ask the phone screener to verify that you are approved to screen and dose for the study, based on last compound use. A lot of time they will not check and book you for a screening. And you may go through the whole screening process before they let you know you can't do this study. Great if you want $50 for screening and enjoy watching Kathy lee and Hoda while browsing through the Tribune, but not good for getting in the study. That's the only time i ever see Hoda. I'm up to chapter 4 on that big blue book of the history of abbot. If it's not too far out of the way for you, coming in a for a screening you arent qualified for is a good way to get them to tell you about the ones that aren't listed yet. Similarly the alternates who get sent home sometimes get info leaked about what studies are coming up. I got sent home the last two times I was there and didn't get into a 7K i screened for, so i'm at this long slow $4150 at medpace. if i'm really lucky i might get in one more study somewhere this year. i dont see anything listed anywehre yet, except maybe pharmamedica. you guys are complaining about daily rates, but the question is how much do you make in a year. i'd be happy to make $6K in a month at spaulding. at jasper, be sure to find out about travel pay, that can bump up the otherwise low pay by enough sometimes. december edit: heading back to monday to see if i can get in one more study to round off a slow (but ok) year. it's a shitty $2K tube-in-nose study but it's generally hard to find anything in december. re mad financial skills: let's say lab abc is paying $150 a day for a 30 day study, $4500 in 60 days (30+30). that's an annual rate of $27000. meanwhile lab xyz is paying $300 a day for a 3 day study, that's $900 in 3+30 for an annual rate of around $10,000. |
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Post by vark on Dec 17, 2014 11:21:54 GMT -5
I am at doing a 6 day $2K study. So that's $330/day, right, sounds good? Don't do it. They want 10 more people for January. Don't do it.
The hour + 15 minutes it took them to get the tube in my nose yesterday was the worst experience I'd had in 7 years of lab ratting.
Excruciating pain, and gagging, and the creepy feeling of things sliding in your throat and nose. One guy was smart and backed out and got two days alternate pay. One guy, they couldn't tube him. Of the 4 of us who got tubed, 3 say never again, and the 4th guy just isn't talking.
Wait till they have a decent study, february maybe. This one was not advertised, I got it by calling in and asking. I can confirm that you no longer
have to eat all the food on non-pk days. The written rules havent changed, but the actual practice has changed.
while this post is under , i'd say if you get offered a tube-in-nose study anywhere, don't do it.
edit: the second time wasn't nearly as bad.
update: as of april 27th, i've been banned, in part for making this post. they claim it's not direct retaliation for letting you guys know the score; what they are saying is that i should have spoken up earlier. there' a factual dispute about what was said when. i will be trying to appeal. see my newer post. i believe when a clinic bans a subject for, in part, trying to warn other subjects of a dangerous study, that they are interfering in our right to informed consent and violating the ethical standards that clinics are supposed to adhere to.
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Post by hairyscarylarry on Dec 17, 2014 23:10:29 GMT -5
The tube is nose study is one that I'll never do. I have my limits.
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Post by vark on Apr 1, 2015 15:08:20 GMT -5
april now, back at , they are saying we have to eat everything.
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Post by FloridaGirl on Mar 11, 2017 19:17:54 GMT -5
Vark, can I ask u how did they know who you were to ban you in your previous post?
That is scary that they would go to that extreme.
I also think we have the right to voice our opinions good or bad.
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