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Post by vark on Mar 3, 2015 15:35:40 GMT -5
Jesus, there seems to be a lot of pit falls in trying to get qualified for a study. It's like these study coordinators are looking for the "perfect" test subjects. So drinking too much caffeine/stimulants could disqualify you even after a week of consumption? of course they are. study doctors told me i should switch to decaf. i did, and my ekg's got a lot less jumpy. i save the regular coffee for driving home from a study. back to op: what -might- work is go screen somewhere, ask them to send you the labs (always ask for the labs when you screen, typically you have to fill out a form.) then send those to the place that asking. they -pefer- to have a cover letter from a doc saying it's ok, but sometimes just the labs would work, you dont know till you try. i have gotten the cover letter as cheaply as $60 from a walk-in clinic. another time i spent $150 to get my thyroid tested because that's what eli lilly told me, then when i went back they didnt care, but rejected me for some other reason. when you do a study, save some money back to cover situations like this.
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Post by lilmisssunshine on Jan 28, 2016 15:03:30 GMT -5
I got banned from doing all studies at PPD for a TSH level in my lab tests. My bf got banned as well for short PR interval. I was told to go to my doctor then come back to submitted to a committee for approval. I do plan on doing this, but am wondering if anyone else has had similar issues getting banned over a lab test and how easy/difficult is the process to get approved again? Do they take a long time to do this or is this soing that is easily taken care of? In the meanwhile, I have been checking out other places for studies, but it sucks because I live right by PPD.
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Post by mike on Jan 28, 2016 18:40:00 GMT -5
TSH? I wouldn't be surprised if they gave you a lifetime ban for that.
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Post by lilmisssunshine on Jan 28, 2016 18:52:45 GMT -5
TSH? Thyroid Stimulating Hormone? My lab was just out of range. Why would that be a lifetime ban?
Maybe you are thinking of THC?
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Post by mike on Jan 28, 2016 19:59:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah my mistake, but they will ban you from many studies just for the TSH. PPD are dicks.
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Post by mike on Jan 28, 2016 20:06:07 GMT -5
I personally know someone who had a slightly high TSH on their labs at PPD (which means they are hypothyroid, which is very common, a very high entage of women and a good number of men also eventually develop hypothyroidism; it's easily treatable without drugs, just a hormone supplement) and they were permanently banned from all studies except for what I think they call "control" studies at PPD.
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Post by mike on Jan 28, 2016 21:05:13 GMT -5
I moved this thread to PPD section, since it deals exclusively with PPD... Also there is other info here regarding thyroid labs.
Reading back over this full thread, I would like to reiterate soing that a couple people here did not seem to understand: There does not appear to be any reliable science supporting the assumption that reasonable amounts of caffein will affect your throid function. Put another way, if you drink enough coffee to even possibly affect your thyroid, you will likely have other problems, such as your bladder exploding, or overdosing on the caffein.
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Post by smiling4areason on Jan 28, 2016 22:58:57 GMT -5
Aside from caffeine and thyroids, whatever caused it, if you're out of range you're out of range, the Doctor has no obligation to allow someone in a study who doesn't qualify. The sponsors want as close to perfect as possible, this is science after all. If they start a study with a subject who has problems, then the data is compromised, it's muddy. They don't know if his lab values fluctuate from the drug or his previous condition. That's the critical data being collected. This business doesn't revolve around helping you make money, that's a fortunate side effect of collecting the required data. I'm so tired of half wits with no concept of what's taking place or why. We play a VERY important roll, but we're a cog like everyone else from inception to production of these drugs. So yeah, we want to be paid & the sponsor is paying for good data, be healthy or do soing else, sorry if not everyone is cut out for this, be it heredity or poor personal choices, that's life.
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Post by lilmisssunshine on Jan 28, 2016 22:59:50 GMT -5
This is true Mike. I tried to read up to see if there was anything that could have given me a false reading on my labs. It was only out of range by a tiny smidge. I have since screened and been accepted for studies elsewhere, although I haven't actually followed through and done any studies after this incidence due to work scheduling issues. It seems odd that I have passed screening elsewhere without being flagged on labs, but been suspended from PPD. I am a little afraid to take this info to my doctor, I am not sure how insurance would feel about me doing medical studies. Does anyone know if the insurance companies frown on this?
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Post by smiling4areason on Jan 28, 2016 23:09:01 GMT -5
On the topic of sending in you're labs, I can only speak for , but I was required to have my results faxed directly from the lab it's self. I was not allowed to potentially tamper with the paper work. I didn't find this unreasonable and in fact it was more of a convenience for me to allow the lab to handle it & not have to find a fax machine myself, or make a trip to the CRU directly.
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Post by smiling4areason on Jan 28, 2016 23:21:25 GMT -5
on the topic of "I got in some studies but not others" jesus people are we that ignorant? Is our understanding of science that limited, do you have any idea whats happening or why? Studies can, and often do have slightly different ranges & different requirements. A very slight change can be enough to knock you out of one, or let you clear for another. There are many standards ranges, but at anytime the sponsor, AND IT IS THE SPONSOR OR FDA, NOT THE CRU OR THE DOCTOR, can say "we want to reduce the tolerances and tighten such and such ranges". PPD or any CRU can't say, whoa, no way. It's the CRU job to conduct the study under the exact protocol provided by the sponsor, who, is bankrolling all of our paychecks.
So yes, maybe now you are in range for what you once weren't, or maybe the ranges where wider on these other studies. The only way you know is to get your labs from each study and compare the ranges plus you're results and see if they line up.
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Post by lilmisssunshine on Jan 28, 2016 23:31:59 GMT -5
You don't have to call me ignorant. You are pretty freaking rude. Thanks for being an *******. I was merely asking if anyone had to go through the process of seeing the doctor and then being approved again by PPD and how involved was the process. You don't seem to know how involved that process is and can't answer my question expect to assume I am some kind of ignoramus. Thanks for being a douche who knows nothing and has no answers. I will be sure to never ask any ignorant questions again, *******.
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Post by lilmisssunshine on Jan 28, 2016 23:33:51 GMT -5
If you don't even know what would cause a TSH test to suddenly be out of range and then be in range again, but comment here to tell me that I am the ignorant, then why respond to my question. Go educated yourself, ignorant ignoramus.
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Post by lilmisssunshine on Jan 28, 2016 23:35:18 GMT -5
I thought someone actually KNEW soing about the process at PPD. My bad. I am not asking any more questions on this board again because apparently I am freaking ignorant. Thanks.
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Post by travelingrat on Jan 29, 2016 9:55:32 GMT -5
I thought someone actually KNEW soing about the process at PPD. My bad. I am not asking any more questions on this board again because apparently I am freaking ignorant. Thanks. i hope you will reconsider. there seem to be a number of forum members who take it upon themselves to label someone a "lunatic" or "ignorant" or respond to posts in an insulting way, often without even having read the original post carefully enough to understand it! some of these people never contribute a single review or post that has anything meaningful or informative to say ...they just diss other people. and i am not targeting this post in particular; it is just soing i have noticed, the last few months in particular. there are so many members who never post and i think the more posts, the better for all of us. i hate to think that people will get discouraged to post. communication works better when there is respect between us all. just saying.
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