|
Post by puntkicker on Oct 17, 2016 16:46:52 GMT -5
What is the shortest amount of time you've screened after one study and have been accepted into another? I imagine blood takes awhile to replenish, so I'm just trying to find out what is possible, even if not probable. Lurkers, I plead with you to join in. EDIT: I already question if I should have asked this. Im tempted to delete it but I'm curious and life is short.
|
|
|
Post by FloridaGirl on Oct 17, 2016 19:09:03 GMT -5
Well u know I will pipe in, especially since my study starting tomorrow was cancelled. I unfortunately end up waiting a month or more until I can find a study. So like now I am 2 months out and getting stir crazy. But I do know someone who seems to be able to go from study to study I would say with a few weeks in between and this person has not been told there is a problem with their hgb or any other lab values. This person usually gets in without a problem. So in a perfect world I would want to wait 2-3 weeks after a study to allow my bruises to heal and maybe do a quick detox and then screen for the next study. In my perfect world I would get to a study every other month like clock work, or sooner if possible but again I tend to bruise so I need to wait for my bruises to go away.
|
|
|
Post by puntkicker on Oct 17, 2016 19:17:04 GMT -5
Well u know I will pipe in, especially since my study starting tomorrow was cancelled. I unfortunately end up waiting a month or more until I can find a study. So like now I am 2 months out and getting stir crazy. But I do know someone who seems to be able to go from study to study I would say with a few weeks in between and this person has not been told there is a problem with their hgb or any other lab values. This person usually gets in without a problem. So in a perfect world I would want to wait 2-3 weeks after a study to allow my bruises to heal and maybe do a quick detox and then screen for the next study. In my perfect world I would get to a study every other month like clock work, or sooner if possible but again I tend to bruise so I need to wait for my bruises to go away. FG, if any lurkers will chime in, I think you'd better brace yourself!
|
|
|
Post by ac on Oct 17, 2016 19:26:23 GMT -5
I have screened with people who had fresh needle marks from checking out of a study just a day or two earlier and they often still get into the study. I can't imagine doing that myself but it's done often by many others.
|
|
|
Post by FloridaGirl on Oct 18, 2016 14:19:22 GMT -5
Neither could I but I have noticed that during most in house studies people tend to have blood drawn from only one arm which I can only assume is so that they can screen when they get out elsewhere. Many people do it, I don't mind doing a study with a thirty day wait in between but U really need to be able to screen soon after leaving a study. So I would say get out of a study do a detox for a week and start looking for a study to screen for that does not have the VCT. Screening means nothing, check in is where the money is.
If I didn't bruise I would screen poss. Two weeks out from in house. I can't believe that study places don't care about needle marks but one girl I met said that if they asked she ( since she had a fresh bruise) would tell them they are from a previous screening that she did not get into but they never asked so maybe I am worrying about nothing.
|
|
|
Post by puntkicker on Oct 25, 2016 13:49:16 GMT -5
Bump? For the love of Pete, I wish the hordes of lurkers(or even a small entage of them) would actually chime in here for a change. Please, anyone? If you don't want to talk about yourself, maybe talk about a friend? Maybe I should ban myself to preserve my faith in the decency of humanity? Or, maybe if Paul really exists and/or is still alive, a petition to require registration may help? Do I need to offer cheese to get the rats to participate? 200+ every 24 hours should have a lot to contribute, or am I crazy to think that?
|
|
|
Post by vark on Oct 27, 2016 22:40:22 GMT -5
cheese might work. i once won $100 from another site that had a contest to encourage posts. we have no funds here. just get used to the idea that this is a slow board. only a few of us post often. another 100 of so post now and then. most people who use the jalr site don't know or dont care that this forum is here. at least 9 of 10 on any board just read and don't write. it's how life works. also you picked a sensitive topic. everyone on this board always waits 30 days between studies. usually, you can screen during those 30 days. rules vary a bit between clinics. we hear those stories of people going right from one clinic to another, or doing three studies at once, but none of those people post here. paul wouldn't allow it.
|
|
|
Post by puntkicker on Oct 29, 2016 20:03:12 GMT -5
cheese might work. i once won $100 from another site that had a contest to encourage posts. we have no funds here. just get used to the idea that this is a slow board. only a few of us post often. another 100 of so post now and then. most people who use the jalr site don't know or dont care that this forum is here. at least 9 of 10 on any board just read and don't write. it's how life works. also you picked a sensitive topic. everyone on this board always waits 30 days between studies. usually, you can screen during those 30 days. rules vary a bit between clinics. we hear those stories of people going right from one clinic to another, or doing three studies at once, but none of those people post here. paul wouldn't allow it. Ha, I enjoy your posts, the humor always leaves me with a grin. I did learn from you to ask about "friends", so people wouldnt have to mention their own doings, and also invited folks to send me a private message. I hear you though, but still have trouble accepting that 95+% of the visitors are completely parasitic(not even a single post). It also looks like the site used to have more free-wheeling/big talkers/entertaining folks in the past, who would just say what was on their mind whether it was PC or not. I wonder what became of them, if the meds caught up to them? Being you mentioned Paul, I wonder what became of him as well. Ive been waiting for him to appear, but it's kind of like waiting for the Great Pumpkin on Peanuts.
|
|
|
Post by Venepuncture on Feb 20, 2017 15:34:13 GMT -5
I know of people who have screened at Clinic B in the middle of a multiple-stay study at Clinic A without a problem. It's a gamble, though.
I am interested to know if the staff would actually kick someone out of a study if they showed up to screening with bruised veins. What do they put as the reason that you are not admitted? Do they explicitly say "you might be in another study and we are not going to risk it?" Or do they craft it around "ineligibility" somehow?
|
|
|
Post by puntkicker on Mar 1, 2017 23:17:19 GMT -5
I know of people who have screened at Clinic B in the middle of a multiple-stay study at Clinic A without a problem. It's a gamble, though. I am interested to know if the staff would actually kick someone out of a study if they showed up to screening with bruised veins. What do they put as the reason that you are not admitted? Do they explicitly say "you might be in another study and we are not going to risk it?" Or do they craft it around "ineligibility" somehow? That's a good question. I'm glad you joined, your posts really add (a lot)more to the discussion than most. Is it possible to get a bruised vein in screening and use that as an excuse?(actually, I'm curious if it is possible in reality, without even being dishonest....if someone can screw up. I've had them "roll" my vein before, but I'm not sure what that does). Well, I'm not intending to do that sort of thing anyhow, it's not what my original questionw as about, but I really appreciate your input, and hope for more of it. Have these people ever been caught, or has it always worked out for them? As for bruises, I seem to have heard some people are just more susceptible to them?
|
|
|
Post by FloridaGirl on Mar 4, 2017 8:04:37 GMT -5
As far as bruising I have found for me that I drink alot of water in house I constantly am drinking water to stay hydrated and i have Arnica gel for bruising that I use and the last study I did I did not get any bruising and they stuck me in the same vein each time. But they didnt miss so no repeat sticks. Then long term "studiers" have the one vein with scar tissue built up and they never bruise.
So when i started a little over a year ago i was always bruised but I find my technique works for me and I of course do not take any motrin or otc that could thin my blood and cause bruising.
|
|
|
Post by pharmalady on Mar 6, 2017 12:04:46 GMT -5
I can tell you why lurkers don't chime in. Its because you have to create an account to post on here. Lab rats want anonymity and they want easy access. You don't really get that when you need to create an account.
To answer your question, I can't 'study hop' because I get anemic really easily. So I actually follow the wash.
|
|
|
Post by FloridaGirl on Mar 6, 2017 21:43:26 GMT -5
I was thinking that that is true most regular study people are busy doing and or looking for studies and really do not have the time to post in this forum and don't want anyone to know their business. It can be a doggie dog world in the study business , with the wiff of a possible study quickly being sent thru email and text to many people. I am just a people person and like sharing/helping other people otherwise I too would just mind my own business and not draw unwanted attention to myself even though we are using made up screen names and no one knows who we are, hopefully. So to add to my bruise control. I bring Arnica gel to apply between blood draws and I also apply ice in between at facilities where ice is available. I put it in my water bottle and apply it directly to the site. Oh and I always apply direct pressure for at least five minutes post blood draw. Find what works for u and stick with it.
|
|
|
Post by puntkicker on Mar 6, 2017 22:38:41 GMT -5
I can tell you why lurkers don't chime in. Its because you have to create an account to post on here. Lab rats want anonymity and they want easy access. You don't really get that when you need to create an account. To answer your question, I can't 'study hop' because I get anemic really easily. So I actually follow the wash. Thanks for your post, I appreciate your input. I see what you're saying about not allowing "guest" posts, and agree it would be nice if Paul would change to do that. I also wanted to say that you're still anonymous with an account. I mean, neither of us knows who each other is, or anyone else for that matter, correct? I don't recall signing up, but I'd never mention my real name if it asked for it, which I dont think it did anyhow. To be frank, it could be that the people do not have "the proper motivation" to post(I dont like to use the word "lazy"), and I think that requiring them to take 5 minutes one time to create an account to be able to read posts would be another way the board would get more messages. The former guests would already be logged on each time, and with the account already made, I think they would be MUCH more likely to post. However, I think Paul may be concerned that doing so might drive away a few of the more shiftless guests and hurt his ad reveneue. Im just speculating on that, but it blew me away the last time I looked(ages ago) to see that 200 guests had been on in the last 24 hours, and just 6 guests. It shows it at the very bottom of the main message board page, if you scoll down past all the threads. If that is a concern, I'd say maybe announce a trial period. See how it goes for 2 weeks or so. It's not like the guests have even ONE other such site to go to and siphon all of our input from. I enjoy busting their chops to get them to say soing. Too many posts from a small oligarchy feels reminiscent of inbreeding to me, you know? To Floridagirl, does that Arnica gel really prevent/heal bruises? I just looked it up and it says it's a paint/joint relief? I might some if you endorse it.
|
|
|
Post by subject on Mar 7, 2017 19:58:42 GMT -5
I am not sure why people are so adamant about making people post on a internet message board. You have to realize that most of these people in these studies view others as competition and rightfully so. Hence refraining from sharing vital information with other anonymous people who are likely to be competitors in an upcoming trial.
The numbers you see below: "Users Online in the Last 24 Hours 0 Staff, 12 Members, 261 Guests."
does not necessarily mean 261 PEOPLE visited the site. Many counters/analytic scripts take a unique IP address as a visitor/guest. If you include the google bots, spiders and such you are probably looking at around 30 UNIQUE IPs of a unique person or less that visited the site. If you really want a true estimate, just look at the "VIEWING" section on the main page.
"Information about Healthy Studies - 2 viewing" should give you a pretty fair estimate about how many people are on the board. Looking at that information, there is probably 1 other person other than myself at this time looking the board. Both of those estimates were taken at the same time, so theres 261 Guests in the last 24 hours but 2 people viewing the subforum, so which is it? 261 people or 2? It's 2.
So there isn't actually HUNDREDS of people that "leech" information and not post. Quite the contrary, there are probably less than 10 active posters and about 3 dozen people that check this board a month and many of them work for the CRO's (clinical trial organizations like Spaulding for instance).
|
|