That vanishing spaulding thread?!

[labrat1]

These links?


www.indeed.com/cmp/Spaulding-Clinical/reviews


www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Spaulding-Clinical-Reviews-E718103.htm

[labrat1]

Also

trialsitenews.com/wisconsin-based-spaulding-clinical-research-a-top-phase-i-facility-the-fda-awards-a-5m-contract/

[labrat1]

Some of you might have gotten the same email.

Spaulding is having an o p e n house. I have only heard of one other clinical trial facility that ever had an o p e n house. It was Clinilabs in NY and that was quite a few years back.

It may be that Spaulding is trying to get a better image. They might have changed some things.
I have no idea. I have never been there but it seems that here in JALR Spaulding is not considered to be one of the better research sties to do studies in.

If Spaulding has bunk beds they have to get rid of them and use regular beds or hospital beds.
Bunk beds are just a horrific bed accommodation for research volunteers. It makes for a very jail-like atmosphere and also, even though most studies recruit people under the age of 45, and few people in their 60s or 70s or older are ever chosen for studies, it is just not safe to have people who are going to be experimented on with medication, climbing up a bunk bed even if he or she is in his or her 20s. And I have stated in this and/or other threads that I once was in a study in which a woman who was in her senior years was given the top bunk of a bunk bed.

Recently a friend told me that it is illegal in certain states for a research facility to put older people on the top of a bunk bed, but I wonder if it is actually a law that actually applies to research sites or if it is just a common rule that is not really a true regulation.
This would make a good thread of its own.

However, it seems counterproductive for certain research sites to have o p e n houses. A lot of the clinics would not want volunteers to know what the accommodations are like if the volunteers are crowded into small rooms.
And as I mentioned I have only heard of one clinical trial site doing it but when I went to that o p e n house, the staff only showed the attendees the nicely-arranged rooms with only two beds in them which were very hotel-like.
When I actually got to do a study there a few years later I was in a room full of beds next to each other and both men and women were put in the same room with only curtain partitions to separate them and there was only one night nurse who seemed to have to oversee more than one room.

[jr]

Jun 24, 2021 10:32:01 GMT -5 labrat1 said:

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Some of you might have gotten the same email.

Spaulding is having an o p e n house. I have only heard of one other clinical trial facility that ever had an o p e n house. It was Clinilabs in NY and that was quite a few years back.

It may be that Spaulding is trying to get a better image. They might have changed some things.
I have no idea. I have never been there but it seems that here in JALR Spaulding is not considered to be one of the better research sties to do studies in.

If Spaulding has bunk beds they have to get rid of them and use regular beds or hospital beds.
Bunk beds are just a horrific bed accommodation for research volunteers. It makes for a very jail-like atmosphere and also, even though most studies recruit people under the age of 45, and few people in their 60s or 70s or older are ever chosen for studies, it is just not safe to have people who are going to be experimented on with medication, climbing up a bunk bed even if he or she is in his or her 20s. And I have stated in this and/or other threads that I once was in a study in which a woman who was in her senior years was given the top bunk of a bunk bed.

Recently a friend told me that it is illegal in certain states for a research facility to put older people on the top of a bunk bed, but I wonder if it is actually a law that actually applies to research sites or if it is just a common rule that is not really a true regulation.
This would make a good thread of its own.

However, it seems counterproductive for certain research sites to have o p e n houses. A lot of the clinics would not want volunteers to know what the accommodations are like if the volunteers are crowded into small rooms.
And as I mentioned I have only heard of one clinical trial site doing it but when I went to that o p e n house, the staff only showed the attendees the nicely-arranged rooms with only two beds in them which were very hotel-like.
When I actually got to do a study there a few years later I was in a room full of beds next to each other and both men and women were put in the same room with only curtain partitions to separate them and there was only one night nurse who seemed to have to oversee more than one room.

Spaulding had a lot of relatively easy studies that utilized the bunk bed rooms. It was actually a lot of fun when I did a study there for two weeks. Spaulding has been focusing on the ECG intensive studies, so the bunks don't work for their operation anymore. Does anyone have advice on how to survive the ECG studies? I accidentally got into one, and after the first full day of 16 ECGs with 16 blood draws, I decided never to do one again. Thanks

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[/quote]Spaulding had a lot of relatively easy studies that utilized the bunk bed rooms. It was actually a lot of fun when I did a study there for two weeks. Spaulding has been focusing on the ECG intensive studies, so the bunks don't work for their operation anymore. Does anyone have advice on how to survive the ECG studies? I accidentally got into one, and after the first full day of 16 ECGs with 16 blood draws, I decided never to do one again. Thanks[/quote]









I have done studies that require halter monitors. Set-up wise it is similar in that you have to wear ECG tabs attached to wires. With a halter monitor there is a small heart-beat recording device that you have to carry with you.
I did one in December of 2020. The problem was that the sticky tabs can irritate your skin when they have to stay on for at least 24 hours at a time, maybe longer.
But on the latest halter monitor study I did, the clips were secured to the tabs with surgical tape. This way if the wearer accidentally tugs on the wires while carrying the halter monitor then the surgical tape will prevent the clip from just being pulled off so easily. But the surgical tape of course naturally is cut in long rectangle strips and the pointed corners of each strip of tape can poke your skin and the tug of the tape on your skin can cause irritation and I guess it was a particular problem with the women in the group I was in since the ECG tabs go under the breast. The women in the group I was in developed very red irritated rashes on their skin because of the surgical tape, not really just because of the ECG tabs themselves.
The female rats did request a different kind of tape to secure the clips on the tabs. It was more of a "fabric" tape and it was a bit more comfortable.

Perhaps if you have very sensitive skin (and actually if you don't have particularly sensitive skin) , ECG studies may be a problem.
If the ECG clips are secured with surgical tape you may ask about using a different kind of tape if it is available and if the staff will agree to it.

If ECG-intense studies are a problem for other reasons such as constantly having to lie down in an uncomfortable position, well the last ECG-intense study I did required lying down in a "semi incumbent" position which was at a 45 degree angle with legs straight on the bed and your body, from the hips up, is lying against a triangle shaped large "pillow" which keeps your upper body at a 45 degree angle from your legs.
It was actually very uncomfortable sitting that way for as much as an hour at a time because gravity will affect your lower back and your legs will feel uncomfortable because you cannot bend your knees to relieve the fatigue (it is not allowed for the ECG readings). .
I just tolerated it. I needed the money.
The study was designed so that I had to do one session of sitting in the "semi incumbent" position as blood draws and ECG readings were done in short intervals. I was not expecting the particular discomfort of sitting up in a way that is highly "un-ergonomic" but after some 2 or 3 hours passed I and the other rats were allowed to take a break from sitting in the semi incumbent position and walk around, or just lie in a position that feels comfortable and the following sessions in which we had to lie semi-incumbent for ECG readings were shorter in duration, maybe a few minutes at a time with longer breaks in between.

Then I and my group were not to do another "session" or have any events for two days in a row and then we would have to go through the process of the ECG tabs, the semi-incumbent position for a few hours, (etc.) all over again.

Since I knew what to expect this time, it helped in that I just psychologically adjusted to it so to speak.
I and my group had to do this process about three times in the entire 2 -week long study.
It can be a mind over matter thing. When you suddenly have to endure some thing you were not expecting that can make it all the worse.
The rest of the study actually was good in that it did not involve being dosed with medication that made me sick ( I have done studies involving medication that affects me and I have to try hard not to quit the study). The study also had days that were completely free of events and all I and my group had to do is eat meals at certain times. We were free to sleep, or watch TV or play games or shower, etc..

Maybe there are ECG studies that are far far more intense than this and may involve staying in even more uncomfortable positions for longer.

Maybe it is best to just realize that any ECG intense study will involve skin irritation with ECG tabs, and having to sit or lie in horrifically uncomfortable positions.

[vark]

i was at spaulding last december. 2 to a room, easy study, paid well. this year when i screened my blood pressure was too high. same at vince. at vince just from walking by it looked like they had 6 people in a small room. that's better than bunk beds but still too crowded. the screening lobby is all fancy and nice, but i have not done an actual study there. i call it vince but it's actually altavista now. it looks like dr vince is building his own study place about a mile north, next to where wholefoods as, maybe 75th and metcalf. not yet, but watch for it. nothing on google about it yet.