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Post by respect on Jul 1, 2014 12:15:24 GMT -5
No, no, no. You guys don't get it. You are assuming that all people who have this problem must have high blood pressure. It has nothing to do with that. It's anxiety related. Until you can change how you react to certain life situations such as having your blood pressure taken you will always have cuff anxiety. Blood pressure can remain healthy 99.9% the rest of the time except when you're having your BP taken. So telling people to take this and that to lower their blood pressure when it's already healthy isn't helping anyone. Even if you did do soing to off set your BP during screening, what will that person do once they are in the study and they experience this while in the study? There's no graviola fruit or valieran tea available to you now. Bye bye. You're a goner. So if you can't pass a screening without any of this help it's a waste of time.
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Post by respect on Jul 1, 2014 12:24:38 GMT -5
Sounds to me its time to see a psychiatrist for your anxiety. May be s/he can put you on anti anxiety medication. You may be advised to avoid the situation that gives you the panic attacks so you know what that means. Its for a good reason. You don't want to take an experimental medication and end up with a cardiac event. Your body is probably warning you of an outcome that is undesireable. Love yourself enough to make the right decision.
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Post by vark on Jul 1, 2014 20:42:48 GMT -5
you'll figure out the quote function, respect.
soing i suggest, spend $50 at the drug store for a blood pressure device, get a clipboard (or soing online) and take a reading daily. you can test different techniques. to make it go up, make yourself angry. then getting calm will lower it.
soing i like to do is imagine i'm at the shore, a quiet tropical lagoon, sun beating down,waves lapping gently, hula music playing. however, i have an active imagination, so a giant squid comes out of the water, and a helicopter appears to strafe the squid, etc...
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Post by respect on Jul 2, 2014 21:12:12 GMT -5
Is true risk monitors are more accurate? At least that's what Dr.Oz suggests.
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Post by swanson234 on Jul 18, 2014 11:33:50 GMT -5
. Im not suggesting anybody poop their pants during vitals but they are some desperate people who might. Oh damn. I thought he meant letting it out right there at the vital chair. I knew I shouldn't have done that.
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Post by thedude on Jul 25, 2014 13:11:50 GMT -5
I know it most likely varies from location to location and depending on the details of the particular study, but is there a general rule of thumb number that is considered perfect for getting into a study? The only reason I ask is because I take my own blood pressure pretty regularly and I eat really healthy compared to my past and exercise a lot more now so my bp is actually bline low most times, but I can still get it to spike really high into the hypertension category too if I'm really pissed off about soing or super stressed out. What exactly are they looking for if you screen for a healthy study, is there a general range of numbers they go by? Is it pretty common for people to get disqualified for being out of range on blood pressure either too low or too high and if so would they allow you to take a 5 minute breather and then do it again or is it like a one time pass/fail thing?
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Post by carmel on Aug 3, 2014 0:25:42 GMT -5
Sounds to me its time to see a psychiatrist for your anxiety. May be s/he can put you on anti anxiety medication. You may be advised to avoid the situation that gives you the panic attacks so you know what that means. Its for a good reason. You don't want to take an experimental medication and end up with a cardiac event. Your body is probably warning you of an outcome that is undesireable. Love yourself enough to make the right decision. Wow. What snide remarks. I was being realistic and coming from a perspective of having experienced what the OP has in the past. Suggesting that we avoid the event that produces anxiety is really really bad advice. That's the opposite of what we should do. If someone has a fear of bridges would you tell them to avoid bridges as well? That is going to make life really hard for someone whenever they need to travel in an area where there are bridges. There's ways of overcoming anything. Exposure therapy is one of them. Hypnotherapy or cognitive behavioral therapy are other options. None of these requires a psychiatrist.
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Post by respect on Aug 3, 2014 9:55:54 GMT -5
I'm sure u have done psych drug trials before. Some of those drugs are created for situation just like yours. A psychiatrist may help you to understand and cope with the stressor. Sounds to me that if you avoid this stressor you will have a normal life. May be some of the investigational meds you have taken has altered your wiring creating those extreme panic attack responses.Layering it with more might be even more consequential. Remember the part in the consent that says you might not benefit from this study well voila you just came across a disbenefit of doing studies. Here is a little secret. Expand your income stream into soing you can do more long term as opposed to trials that may lead to approved meds to be used on death row. May be then your adrenal response may not be so extreme. Pharmaceutical prostitution is not the only option.
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Post by johnjalr on Aug 7, 2014 12:24:41 GMT -5
Some interesting responses here. A few irritatingly snide and condescending ones, to be sure, but that's inevitable.
The 'white-coat' syndrome that I experience doesn't manifest itself as a panic attack. It just raises my blood pressure. I can go from 120/70 to 150/95 (or vice versa) in the matter of one minute without even being aware of it. Curling up on a couch blubbering about daddy issues to a psychiatrist for $200 an hour doesn't strike me as a productive use of my time or money. Given that my regular job brings in almost six figures, the stressor surely can't be money. I use whatever I make from studies to fund excursions to South America and elsewhere; it's not hand-to-mouth living. Maybe my subconscious just don't like lab techs.
Here's soing that does seem to work: deep breathing. A minute before they take your pressure, breathe slowly and deeply, filling your lungs till you can feel it in your abdomen, then let it out slowly. It brings up my pulse rate somewhat, alas, but at least the pressure goes right down. I've managed to get it as low as 100/65 - though my pulse was of course hammering away like a machinegun.
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Post by respect on Aug 7, 2014 17:54:58 GMT -5
A bit off topic. Which of you brave lab rats are ready for the EBOLA trials coming to a body near you? Lab rats are known to criss cross the country in search of lute. That exposes us to a lot of travelers increasing our risk of coming in contact with this super killer. As the CDC chief said its inevitable that the disease strikes the US. What gency plan do you have when this occur.
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Post by johnjalr on Sept 10, 2014 12:26:01 GMT -5
Well, here's another thing that doesn't word: Inderal. A 40 mg tablet two hours before a vitals check actually raised my blood pressure to soing like 160/95. Got it back down on the repeat 15 minutes later with a lot of deep breathing, but Inderal is clearly no panacea. Even worse was combining Inderal with Lasix, which gave me some bizarre reading like 105/100. Back at the doctor's office three days later, of course, it was all back to normal.
The human body's a mighty strange thing...
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Post by vark on Sept 10, 2014 14:44:51 GMT -5
how about tips for bringing down the qtc or qtcB on the EKG? I have been sent home from the last two studies I checked into, hope not to make it 3 next week. The only thing I've figured out so far is get enough sleep the night before.
I've been told that holding your breath helps, but for that i'd have to get the tech to tell me when they are going to hit the button.
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Post by johnjalr on Sept 12, 2014 17:47:24 GMT -5
Damn, sorry to hear about your QTC interval. I have a PR interval problem myself, which gets worse in summer when I run and do lots of cycling. Although most studies will accept me (I'm at around 200-210), some of the fussier ones cut off at 200. To beat the ECG, then, I hyperventilate a little and get my heart rate up. This in turn brings down my PR interval.
I don't know anything about affecting QTC, though. You might just have to go by trial error. Don't, however, bother with one of those home ECG machines if you intend to carry out self-experimentation. They're far less accurate than the big, expensive multi-lead affairs in the clinics.
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Post by hamptoninn on Sept 25, 2015 0:20:46 GMT -5
Hey guys
Does anyone know any tricks or things to do during the blood pressure process? I've been kicked out because my bp was too high once and want to prevent it from happening again. Mind you I stay away from all salt sodium etc exercise and eat right I'm thinking it may be stress but during the process my nerves tend to get the best of me. If there is anything anyone knows that will help it will be greatly appreciated thanks...
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Post by hamptoninn on Jan 6, 2016 13:31:06 GMT -5
hey guys I have recently been running into a problem during screening about my blood pressure being too high a problem I haven't had in the past but recently it has been the only thing stopping me. I cut out salt run 5miles a day and I am very active,what would you guys suggest I do? Or try to keep this problem from occurring any feedback would be most helpful thanks
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