I finally did a study there and broke even for the money (but not the time) i have wasted over the years. It was a $2800 study, i had $800 in expenses, travel and hotel and etc., then the day before checkout i reported a rash and they sent me home a day early and cut my paycheck $1000. then i was back to screen recently and had car trouble and ended up leaving my car there, took a bus home. so i call the place a wild goose chase. i'm still going one more time next month for a march study if i dont cancel. strange 3 day screening. i'm a slow learner. megabus $25 from chicago if you book early enough.
After all these years, I finally got a good study at Celerion. It's long but easy. $7500, nearly two months, but usually we just go in for an hour in the morning. I rented an apartment and live out of coffeehouses until I get the wifi installed. 4 short stays, some time off now and then so I can run home if i need to. So i'm ahead of schedule for the year moneywise, as long as i don't blow all my pay while i'm here.
i have zero problem with Hispanics, legal or illegal, doing studies at Celerion tempe. my issue is that why should persons with Mexican passports be accepted into studies but Americans from out of state be refused? this does not make sense to me and i can't see any other way to explain it except as favoritism.
several friends and i (from FL, MD, NY) tried to get screening appointments at celerion tempe and were always told, "No out-of-staters allowed!" this was over a period of 2 YEARS. finally i solved the problem by getting an AZ I.D., only to find that my study had 2 persons with Mexican passports as I.D.!!!!! If someone has a good explanation other than favoritism for why someone from Florida is not allowed to screen and someone from Mexico is, i would love to hear it!
and i agree with you 100% that the largely Hispanic staff is wonderful and extremely kind, and the 2 persons from Mexico in the same study as me, were also wonderful persons. but my friend in Florida is a wonderful person too! why should he be shut out?
Given the circumstances there is no way to avoid illegal aliens. The set up is right for it to germinate and ue and probably grow more and more. If what Vark said is true that out-of-towners tend NOT to show up for exit physicals and thus take off with the study money and not complete the study, clinics will do what benefits them and take illegals who they can control in the respect that illegals fear doing the slightest thing wrong that could get them noticed as illegals even though it is obvious enough already and even though the clinic is discriminating against people from other American states.
Trying to get equal consideration for "Out-of-state-ers" as with "Over-the b-ers" is one of those legally murky areas in that the clinics are probably not being "objective" nor are they "giving every qualifying person an equal chance" even though outwardly they claim to and furthermore the clinics are probably knowingly allowing undocumented people to participate when others who are from the US are asked for statehood or citizenship papers or Social Security card. It is because there is a pool of exploitable persons the clinic(s) know is at their disposal. There probably isn't any law that says the clinics cant do this. Too defined. Too specific. The regulations for Research facilities or clinics or CROs ate very underdefined and there are lots of loopholes.
I do wonder though. It has to be that when the staff see someone they know is from over the b, they don't bother asking for the SS card. People who look like they are from another US state, they do ask for it.
That also being said, I wonder if any thing changed even temporarily because of Covid. Did or do people from Mexico have to show proof of immunization or of testing negative? It would apply for everyone from a different state or country but still with the arrangement that the clinic had for non-citizens, was there any consideration on the part of the clinic regarding this? Did any state authority require it of the clinic?