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Post by userusername on Jan 18, 2017 16:06:34 GMT -5
I'm really happy that it's over that I will receive the final payment and sum that they withhold (which they keep a good portion to motivate you to complete the trial). Also, many volunteers do not read the paperwork thoroughly; when the documents state, "must complete full study" that translates into "CANNOT MISS ANY OPVs". What does this mean for volunteers? This means that if you missed an OPV that you lost $50 for missing your appointment and you also lose the withholding for not completing all of your OPVs. One of our OPVs was the day after Thanksgiving and only 7 of us showed up which meant that fellow volunteers will not have completed the trial and will receive final payment but not the $700 withholding- bummer. DO NOT MISS YOUR OPVS.
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Post by userusername on Jan 14, 2017 23:30:02 GMT -5
Which version of that song were you singing? The Bette Midler one? EDIT: If you enjoyed Vark's post, you might enjoy my "VCT Single Post" thread. I'm not sure which is more complete/updated, as Ive taken some time off until recently, though I did make one recent update. I suppose I shouldnt bump it and let the more diligent of the lot of you be rewarded instead, lol. We're one crazy family on here, and I'm not sure if I can imagine what a picnic with you all would be like. I could envision if I ran a place similar to this and made it where we work more together though, and were more like family. Maybe Ive just had too much caffeine and am thinking too big? I dont know, I like thinking outside of the box though. Vark dedinitely deserves some respect, and if we did 2016 awards(like I think we should), I would nominate him for MVP, and Maxheadroom for funniest poster. I'd probably nominate Floridagirl for rookie of the year. I'm not sure if there are any other categories that's be good to do. I'd be happy with any feedback on that, as I'd like to strengthen the community and make things more interesting around here...and encourage more participation and less lurking...like other message boards. It's getting close to MLKJr Day, and I have a dream for this community! (I wont even list it here now, maybe later, but it would potentially benefit every applicant). Let me know your nominations, or if you think the awards are a terrible idea. Userusername, your antics inspired this post, so I'm giving you credit too even if I dont have a category to nominate you for yet. Possibly your username, though I kind of want to nominate PNGP for the most creative one. Yes, it was the Bette Midler version. Haha, a picnic would be an interesting event. I'm sure some of us have seen or met each other at trials and don't even know it. It would be very interesting to put a face to the people we're talking to. I haven't been on here very much but I'm making an effort to stay updated. I don't deserve to be in any category except for MIA.
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Post by userusername on Jan 14, 2017 15:36:38 GMT -5
Well, my first trial is almost over and it was lengthy and I have concluded that it would have been better for me to enroll in short, well-paying trials rather than trials that last for months. I don't have stable income and the discovery of clinical trials has been the best thing that has happened to me. I only wish that I had known about trials sooner!
I work jobs here and there outside of trials but the trials are my main source of income.
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Post by userusername on Jan 13, 2017 23:07:36 GMT -5
I have been doing more trials and I haven't run into any problems. I have been researching the longevity of drugs in the human body and how long the half life of drugs are and so on. I have never failed any screening and been admitted and selected for every trial I have screened for.
I recommend a healthy life style and lots of water, exercise, and good eating habits.
I also have not experienced any side effects but I also really put in a lot of effort to maintain my good health for myself and the trials. This is soing to keep in mind for your test results and for better blood reproduction. Also, people take it easy after you come home from a trial.
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Post by userusername on Jan 10, 2017 19:37:45 GMT -5
"Did you ever know that you're my hero, and everything I would like to be? I can fly higher than an eagle, 'cause you are the wind beneath my wings. " You're my knight in shining armor! Does anyone know about Novum? And are we sure about Parexel? I don't need any trouble and I'm on this money hunt like a duck on a June Bug.
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Post by userusername on Jan 10, 2017 18:51:01 GMT -5
Every place is different; Some places ask about the time of dosing and don't care about when the study ended whilst other places start the 30 day period from the end of study. It doesn't make much sense because if you're in a study that dosed one or two times and it lasted 2+ months then you would almost definitely be "washed out" before the 30 day requirement.
Sorry for the delayed response... I've been MIA but better late than never!
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Post by userusername on Nov 3, 2016 12:41:04 GMT -5
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knows if you went to a clinic and they have VCT can they manually add information to the system? Or does it only tell things such as, Screening and trials you have been in?
The reason I ask is because I was "interrogated" and told them that I had been in a clinical trial but it had been 30 days since I dosed (which was true). It didn't show in the VCT system so I'm wondering if there was anyway they would or could have added that to the VCT even though the other clinic didn't.
I would think that legally they could not do that but I just want some reassurance and opinions.
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Nov 3, 2016 11:03:02 GMT -5
Post by userusername on Nov 3, 2016 11:03:02 GMT -5
$6000 spread out over 6 months is only $1000 which means that's not enough to fully cover bills.
You would also have to work in all of your OPVs into your schedule and they DO NOT operate on your schedule; you operate on theirs. You cannot chose what time or what days your OPVs are. If you miss an OPV you are not paid for that OPV (understandable) AND you are charged a fee of $50 for the first offense. Every offense there after is plus $50, for example: 1st offense: $50 2nd offense: $100 3rd offense: $150 and so on or they will cut you out of the study all together and you risk being blacklisted from future studies with either that organization or the company that hosts the trials. Also, they make notes on you about everything for future study participation- how many times you were late, your behavior, adhering to rules and regulations of the facility and the study. Basically, they document everything.
I, personally, would prefer a longer confinement with 0 OPVs just to get it done and over with.
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Nov 3, 2016 10:57:31 GMT -5
Post by userusername on Nov 3, 2016 10:57:31 GMT -5
I am still enrolled in the trial and it the OPVs have slowed down but it's interfering with me participating in other clinical trials. It's easy enough- mostly blood draws.
I'm states away from Tennessee.
Yes, very interesting. It is mediocre pay in my opinion because I see many trials that pay $2000-$8000 for 10 days in confinement or 4 days in confinement and 2 OPVs. I only wish I had known more about this before I signed up for my current study.
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Post by userusername on Oct 10, 2016 12:02:34 GMT -5
I say as little as possible. I am not sure if u have a scar that they may or may not see. I guess if u don't tell them and they see the scar u would have to make up a good quick reason/excuse why u did not mention it. So basically you probably won't be able to get into healthy studies. I have a girlfriend who has a thyroid issue and she can't get in either. I told her don't mention it but she takes medication so she has to decide if she can do a study without taking her meds. I mean I am post menopausal but I still had to tell them my boyfriend had a vasectomy in to get in to a healthy study. Hopefully more people will give u their opinion. Well, they're laparoscopic scars and I scar well so they're not visible unless you're REALLY looking. I have been in one healthy study but it wasn't a Phase 1 study. The woman explained that with the Phase 1, they're looking for people who basically have never had any problems. Also, that the removal of the gallbladder may change the absorption of the medication. So, it's not life threatening. I think I might fib about it.
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Post by userusername on Oct 9, 2016 22:17:43 GMT -5
What's it pay if you finish? What would you get paid if you quit now? [edit: ballpark numbers, dont tell us the exact number because that could help identify you.] Did they ever explain what it paid per week, or what the annualized pay rate was? (of course they didn't.) Is it a living wage? (probably not?) Personally I have a general rule that I won't take a study that pays less than 2K, and then at least 1K for every extra month it ues. Do what's best for you. Don't worry about what the clinic wants, except as far as it affects what's best for you. They aren't supposed to hold it against you for bailing for any reason, but in practice they might. If you bail, you will still get some pay, but it might be less than you think, so find out. One option you have would be to screen somewhere, and reach a decision about what to do once you get offered a spot somewhere else. Because what if you bail from your study but don't get in anywhere else? of course, even when they say you are in, you aren't really in till you dose. This option probably involves being less than totally honest with the place you would be screening, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just outline options. I've been doing this enough years I've become a bit cynical. Caveats: don't screen somewhere owned by the same megacorp, or for the same sponsor as the study you are now in. I personally have not ever dropped out of a study once I dosed. My most recent study, for a local hospital involved uncomfortable electric shocks that were barely worth the pittance i was getting, but i decided to stick it out. But I have turned down a lot of studies that didn't pay enough for the time involved, and I can see how in your first study you could fall for soing like that. I think you are wise not to name names, but in the past month I've turned down screening offers in florida, tennesee, and nebraska, because it wasn't enough pay for the number of outpatients. If you can get in that $12K spaulding study, cut and run. But that one might be full by now, or have drawbacks I don't know about. Anyhow you are asking the right kind of questions. Figure out how to pick short studies that pay well, or longer studies that pay really well, so you can make enough to live on. The total amount is near $6000 but it's months long so the pay is mediocre and I won't make this mistake again. I think that I'm just going to stick it out with this trial because I really want to do more trials at this location because of it's cleanliness and hospitality. I went to a screening somewhere else and was appalled at the filthiness and that honestly made me apprehensive to dose there.
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Oct 9, 2016 22:13:21 GMT -5
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Post by userusername on Oct 9, 2016 22:13:21 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm not worried about the judgement and people don't know my situation- I'm struggling and I do not have the ability to just go get a job for reasons I will not divulge. It has been 30 days since dosing. This was my first study and I don't want to say where yet...just in case... Ha, you are wise not to worry about judgement. This board looks like it used to be worse in those regards, but the people seem quite nice since I joined a couple months back. You're right that they tell you that you can leave at any time for any reason, but if you were them and wanted to keep every possible spot filled for profit margin, and you had a large stream of people to choose from, would you pick someone who had already quit after you invested a lot in them? I'm not mocking you, I'm just trying to be helpful and give you their perspective to help you make a decision. While I do not personally mess around with the wash out window, I did compile that list and will add the new info you've gleaned from replies(good work on that, by the way), because I try to follow the Golden Rule and like helping others have the resources that can help them, even if I don't choose their particular od of operation. So... If the place you were with doesn't have VCT, you should be golden with the next place, provided they don't have some local agreement as I've seen mentioned between some places in the same state. Youll have to decide for yourself if you'd think the new drug might effect the readings on the first study, being we dont have the specifics. I wish you the best, and hope more people will weigh in to help. PK Thank you for your input. I just really didn't know what I was getting myself into I'm my first trial. To be honest, I just really needed money quickly and clinical trials pulled up in Google. The dose that I received was an injection and they are monitoring the blood to monitor the effects. What I got from asking around is that they don't really check much else from the blood work. I think I could participate in a trial that was oral medication and have little to no worry about it showing up in my system two weeks after dosing. Now, I was told that injections can be longer lasting but they're referring to the antibodies. The trial I am currently enrolled is looking for antibodies that might develop from the medication(which is what they want).
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Post by userusername on Oct 8, 2016 20:43:08 GMT -5
FG hit a number of important points. The first I'd ask is if you'd ever like to do another study at this place? Obviously they'll want nothing to do with you after you screw them over. I won't get into morals, because we don't know you're situation. You could be dying of lung cancer like on Breaking Bad, we don't know. I'm just warning you that some replies in the past have been harsh. You should see one from a guy who took an antiacid. Lol One thing that might make folks less judgmental, and even you feel better, is how long ago you finished dosing. If long enough ago, you will only be potentially compromising one study and not two. Maybe none. From your other threads you obviously know about VCT, so I won't get into that. Either way, let us know how it goes. I highly doubt you're alone in your situation, and you can probably help others. Was this your first study? Where at? Honestly, I'm not worried about the judgement and people don't know my situation- I'm struggling and I do not have the ability to just go get a job for reasons I will not divulge. It has been 30 days since dosing. This was my first study and I don't want to say where yet...just in case...
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Oct 8, 2016 20:35:37 GMT -5
Post by userusername on Oct 8, 2016 20:35:37 GMT -5
Withdrawing from the study could ruin your chances of doing future studies with that clinic. I would try to find ways to make money when you are between OPVs and ue with the study. You could walk dogs, mow lawns, shovel snow, ect. Then keep in mind for the future that you don't just look at the dollar amount, look at the dollar amount per week or per month. Thank you for your positivity and suggestions. I will be cleaning houses as another way to make money and look for a VERY flexible job too. Thank you for your comment. I didn't really get involved in studies until recently and I have now learned my lesson. >.< I won't be able to shovel snow in the south though.
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Oct 8, 2016 20:33:59 GMT -5
Post by userusername on Oct 8, 2016 20:33:59 GMT -5
Well i wanted to be able to see the post to answer but here it goes Have u already done the inpatient part of the study? Is it a facility that you would like to go back to in the future, or that is close to u and u need to go back in the future? Do they have the VCT or more important does the place u want to do studies at inbetween have VCT? Many people do studies in between, especially if the out pt visits are spread out like over 6 mos. If u started the study and dont finish they might hold it against u I struggle with this as well, mainly because i bruise easy so dont want to show up at a study with bruises. So hopefully someone else will also comment, maybe someone who does this a lot. I am always trying to keep busy making money when i can since u never know if u will have a dry spell. Good luck. Thank you for you response! I have already completed the inpatient part of the study. I do like the facility A LOT. I would really like to go back there in the future. They do NOT have VCT. Some of places that I'm looking at do have VCT. I was thinking about that. They say they won't hold it against you if you withdraw but...why would they want someone who withdrew previously? So, I'm worried to withdraw. I also dosed 30 days ago and the OPVs are lengthy. LENGTHY. That's why I wanted to know if I could do other studies in between.
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